Discussion in 'General Chattering' started by Tenelia, 21 Feb 2017.
post them on Imgur and post the link here
I can help out if I have the time
I can help also , some coding
Here's my opinion about this:
1. Pay to Play and EULA
I know that Mojang's EULA says no Pay to Win, but Xeal is a cracked minecraft server, which already violates the EULA ( never really understood why the availability of donor ranks was removed in the first place). So there is really no point in trying to follow the EULA. Anyway, Xeal is just a small asian minecraft server, when compared to other big servers that Mojang has to take care of. Even if Xeal is somehow blacklisted, there are always alternatives like SquidHQ. Lots of Xeal's players are cracked (including me at first) so I don't see many people paying to play on a new Xeal. Why not just let people who can afford it donate for perks and allow non-donors to play?
To be honest, I think Xeal's previous 32GB dedicated RAM was a bit overkill. Xeal Main is somewhat of a SMP and there aren't many lag inducing structures in Xeal Main (e.g. Auto Farms and Cannons). I think that Xeal can run on something simple like a Raspberry Pi (Its like $15 what the heck). So what exactly are the main costs of putting Xeal back up?
3. Minecraft Version
Like quite a few people say: "Xeal died because it upgraded to 1.9". I somewhat agree with this. The end of the holidays came and Xeal's peak players dropped from 50-60 to about 25-35. Then on top of that Xeal went to 1.9 (which lots of people dislike, not just pvpers). I think the combined effect of the end of holidays, diminishing activity of players and staff, and the update to 1.9 (horrible luck and timing) all lead to Xeal's demise. But there is a solution which I do not know why wasn't implemented. Something called "Protocol Hacks". Lots of big servers like Hy****l and Mi****x use protocol hacks to allow different minecraft versions to connect to one server. I was going to use this to encourage more people to join my own server, Sycophantia, but it closed due to lack of a host. So why doesn't Xeal use protocol hacks like Protocol Support, Hexacord, or Waterfall? Then we could have a 1.7/1.8 games server and a 1.11.2 Main server.
Thanks for taking the time to read it and I hope that this could work. I'll be sure to come on once the server is done!
(BE OPTIMISTIC DAMN IT)
err... just saying... we can mention server names now...
Well it was quite obvious nonetheless... Unless you live in a bucket or something
Sorry if I sounded a bit demanding/unsatisfied.I didn't mean to project that tone, but I was talking for the people who simply just play cracked minecraft and not CSGO/LoL. As for protocol hacks, someone made a plugin on spigot where you add it to a 1.11.2 server and it allows backwards support down to 1.7. It isn't really that time consuming to set up.
Also if its really hard to host on your own, why not use an affordable hosting website? Like
I think it might be cheaper than 100 SGD per month
Didn't mean to belittle anyone's efforts. I still treasure Xeal one of the first minecraft servers that I played in.
Just stating what I thought about the whole 1.9 situation and server hosting in general.
there's a 1.8 pvp mechanic plugin so why doesnt everyone just use that
(can i build the mrt)
Hit reg on 1.9 isn't the same. Also it looks different, if you are swinging fast you wont be able to see your own sword. Can't blockhit either. If you are on a 1.8 minecraft client you wont be able to connect either, because you would have to change to 1.9 . Thats why protocol hacks are so important.
Well im back for a while, starting to get used to high school. If need help building stuff, i can do a thing or two. Lets just hope my skills doesnt rot too much huehue
Come to think about it, what will the server name be, tene?
Sure, and when glitches or bugs appear, which of you will be responsible and accountable for the server downtime?
I am the only one able to troubleshoot and update plugins. The more plugins we use, the higher the risk of a glitch or vulnerability taking place. Even a simple chat plugin that I am testing now has weird errors with perms and player data because of the new features and UUID system.
No idea yet on the server name... Let's just focus on building stuff up.
I don't mind spending time to help out should there be a need for someone to fill in for administrative or back-end duties on the new server :)
Added you to my Message group.
^ I don't mind that as well as long there is mah Ed bb <3
Check out new update thread!
Hey Tenelia, I might be interested in helping on the funding/server end of stuff. Don't have the time currently to help with builds. Drop me a PM for my hp or add me to the chat group so I can understand the current situation, thanks!
Yes, we are currently finding 7 people to even the bills $4.99 per person. I have added you to convo so that you can get the Skype link there to know more.
Much love <3
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