REJECTED /recipes For Novice

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Do you agreee with making /recipes for Novice?

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  1. StylZ

    StylZ Weird Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I think this command available for Novice because this will help them find their crafting recipe more easier. This might be useful in a situation where nobody currently online in the server is free to answer the novice's question or rarely when nobody is bothered to answer his question OR when nobody with the knowledge of how to craft the specified item is currently online.
     
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    tomato Adept Poster - A2

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    Grammar correction: I think the command, /recipe should be available for novices as this will enable them to find crafting recipes for the items they want to craft without asking in the server's public chat. This might be useful in a situation where nobody currently online in the server is free to answer the novice's question or rarely when nobody is bothered to answer his question OR when nobody with the knowledge of how to craft the specified item is currently online. (don't judge me D: i just can't help it)
     
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  3. StylZ

    StylZ Weird Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Thx for correcting my grammar mistake. I have edited it and used your last line. xD
     
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    Minecraft wiki? Why don't they use it?
     
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    The reason novices are novices are so that there can learn the ropes of minecraft survival. What is the point of them applying for initiate if they don't know the basic recipes in minecraft. I can understand that they might not know some unique recipes of xeal, but they can still ask the other players which promotes interaction among players. Furthermore /recipe is a privileged that is given to initiates and higher. If /recipe were to be given to novices too, wouldn't the value of initiate be lower? Hence, I am against giving the /recipe command to novices. They can learn the recipes through minecraft wiki or ask helpers and other players
     
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    I think this command should be available for Novices
    As this will enable them to find the crafting recipe of the specified item they are looking for much faster
     
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    What if one time only novices is online, no initiate/adept/staff/donors online. What do they do? Wait for a player who has the rank to be online? What are the chances?
     
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    I did see that once But there was a Single initiate online
     
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    I dont think so. Staff have this time change/swap/kitties/turns. Some on the noon, morning, even at 3 am. Well, i think...
     
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    how often do you see a novice alone in the server, asking for recipes. What are the chances?
     
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    I expect Initiate rank and beyond that rank to help out novices whenever they need help even though if there is no helpers or mods online or not.
     
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    Even if there is no one else online, I think novices would be smart enough to google the recipes they need. We have a crafting plug-in there for them as well..
     
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    I believe the only reason this would be justified is because the server uses certain custom recipes (slime balls, netherrack, horse armour) and that might be the only reason you'd want /recipe for novices. Aside from that, there's always the minecraft wiki or NEI (if it's still allowed, you can only search for items and recipes since you'd need op to override world default which is on recipe)
     
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    U think. But many are just dumb ;D no offense but yea.
     
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    Here are my 2 cents worth of how and why the Novice and Initiate ranks work on Xeal.

    Novice :
    Players who are new to Xeal fall under this category. They play in Main with barely any commands available to them, very much like playing in Vanilla. In order for them to unlock more commands and permissions, they are required to clock at least 10 hours of game-play time. This 10 hours is to ensure they are familiar with the expected conduct on the server and understand the rules. It also gives these new players time to get to know existing members of the server, as well as staff. They would also take this time to look for a faction to join, or, if they want to, create their own faction.
    Aims:
    1. Understand server rules,
    2. Interact and get to know other players
    3. Learn of what is available on Xeal
    When a player has met the 10 hours criteria and the above 3 pointers, he/she would then apply to be an Initiate.

    Initiate :
    Players who have settled down into the server. They now have access to a wider range of commands which will help them during their journey here on Xeal. Players who are Initiates and/or higher are expected to fully understand the server's rules and abide by them. They are also to inform staff of any incidents where other players disobey the rules. Initiates can also assist new players (Novices) should they have queries regarding the server. Having a wider range of commands would help Initiates build easier on Xeal and slowly build up their repertoire before applying for the next rank.
    Aims:
    1. Assist Novices to get to know Xeal
    2. Play a part in Xeal's economy (ability to use /auction and also /case redeem)
    3. Develop one's building skills to show-case to Xeal one's abilities
    4. Keep a look-out for anyone disobeying rules and inform staff if necessary
    When a player has met the minimum requirements for Adept rank, achieve the above 4 pointers (especially the 3rd point), he/she would then apply to be an Adept

    Therefore, I do not support Novice(s) having the /recipe command
     
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  16. tomato

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    O.O that i have to agree with
     
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